RR: And Kirstie Parker, many of you would know Kirstie not only from her appearance on the drum with that great red lipstick but also the much work you have done in many government organisations but also aboriginal-owned organisations such the Koori Mail as editor, of course NCIE at the moment as the CEO. And you're Yuwallarai?
KIRSTIE PARKER: Yuwallarai.
RR: And of course these ladies are also partners.
KP: Yes, we are.
DY: Yes, we are.
RR: OK, first question, where did you meet?
DY: Well, It's actually a really cute beautiful story. I was actually at Redfern at Gadigal Studios which is Koori Radio to record my last album. And I just needed a break and somebody said that there were chairs and tables up on the roof. And I said, OK, see you soon. I'm just going up for some fresh air and just to chill out. Being cooped up in the studio for a week is interesting with four blocks, so I just needed some space. So I went up there and walked out onto the roof and there was Kirstie Parker sitting down doing a radio interview. And I just seen her and I went, I'm just going to see if I can wait and get a yarn in and--
RR: And did you know of each other before this?
DY: Well, it was kind of funny. When Kirstie finally got off the phone, I was just about to leave and she hung up.
RR: And she was working at the Congress at the time.
DY: Yup. She was working at Congress. And she introduced herself, "I am Kirstie Parker." I said, "Hi, I'm De". And she said, "Last name?" I said, "Oh, De Greer-Yindimincarlie". She said, "Oh, I've heard of you." I went, "Oh, I've not heard of you."
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